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		<title>By: Demian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m putting out a fatwa on Kass.  May the Allah of capitalism strike him down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m putting out a fatwa on Kass.  May the Allah of capitalism strike him down!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas Kass is a guy who shorted WB &amp; BH stock through his domestic dedicated short fund Seabreeze Partners Mgmt.

Doug has been called &quot;the Anti Cramer&quot;, which of course contrasts his short bias with Jim Cramer&#039;s &quot;strong long&quot; outlook. Both men write columns for thestreet.com

below is an excerpt from a 5/18/08 Barron&#039;s interview with Kass. What he said then sounds pretty smart now:
Barron&#039;s: &quot;You&#039;re short Berkshire Hathaway [BRK.A]. Betting against Warren Buffett in the past was a costly move, as evidenced by Berkshire&#039;s stellar performance since the 1960s. Why do so now?

Kass: &quot;No. 1, there will never be another Warren Buffett. I respect and admire him considerably, but in part because of the lucrative compensation set-up in the hedge-fund industry, the investment landscape now is inhabited by a lot more smart and aggressive managers who comb for value -- far more than there were 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Berkshire Hathaway &#039;s outperformance versus the market has been narrowing in the last decade, and I expect that will continue. Investors are going to dump the shares if Buffett is no longer at the helm, though I&#039;m not signaling that he plans to step down anytime soon.

What else concerns you about Berkshire?

More than anything, I&#039;m short Berkshire because of Buffett&#039;s recent investment-style drift. In the past five years, Buffett frequently called derivatives &quot;financial weapons of mass destruction.&quot; Yet, very much out of character, he immersed himself in several large and thus far unprofitable derivative transactions, leading to an unrealized $1.6 billion pretax loss in the first quarter. I&#039;m also short Berkshire because the salad days for insurance, which is the cornerstone of Berkshire&#039;s business, are over. Also, Berkshire&#039;s premium valuation seemingly has been a byproduct of the credit crisis, and the perception of the company as a safe haven. Berkshire&#039;s shares might underperform as some of the deflated financial companies regain their footing. And Buffett is substantially exposed not only to financials -- he owns large positions in Wells Fargo [WFC], Bank of America [BAC] and American Express [AXP] -- but also to a weakening housing market through his ownership of Clayton Homes.

Kass sides with Mabel on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas Kass is a guy who shorted WB &amp; BH stock through his domestic dedicated short fund Seabreeze Partners Mgmt.</p>
<p>Doug has been called &#8220;the Anti Cramer&#8221;, which of course contrasts his short bias with Jim Cramer&#8217;s &#8220;strong long&#8221; outlook. Both men write columns for thestreet.com</p>
<p>below is an excerpt from a 5/18/08 Barron&#8217;s interview with Kass. What he said then sounds pretty smart now:<br />
Barron&#8217;s: &#8220;You&#8217;re short Berkshire Hathaway [BRK.A]. Betting against Warren Buffett in the past was a costly move, as evidenced by Berkshire&#8217;s stellar performance since the 1960s. Why do so now?</p>
<p>Kass: &#8220;No. 1, there will never be another Warren Buffett. I respect and admire him considerably, but in part because of the lucrative compensation set-up in the hedge-fund industry, the investment landscape now is inhabited by a lot more smart and aggressive managers who comb for value &#8212; far more than there were 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Berkshire Hathaway &#8216;s outperformance versus the market has been narrowing in the last decade, and I expect that will continue. Investors are going to dump the shares if Buffett is no longer at the helm, though I&#8217;m not signaling that he plans to step down anytime soon.</p>
<p>What else concerns you about Berkshire?</p>
<p>More than anything, I&#8217;m short Berkshire because of Buffett&#8217;s recent investment-style drift. In the past five years, Buffett frequently called derivatives &#8220;financial weapons of mass destruction.&#8221; Yet, very much out of character, he immersed himself in several large and thus far unprofitable derivative transactions, leading to an unrealized $1.6 billion pretax loss in the first quarter. I&#8217;m also short Berkshire because the salad days for insurance, which is the cornerstone of Berkshire&#8217;s business, are over. Also, Berkshire&#8217;s premium valuation seemingly has been a byproduct of the credit crisis, and the perception of the company as a safe haven. Berkshire&#8217;s shares might underperform as some of the deflated financial companies regain their footing. And Buffett is substantially exposed not only to financials &#8212; he owns large positions in Wells Fargo [WFC], Bank of America [BAC] and American Express [AXP] &#8212; but also to a weakening housing market through his ownership of Clayton Homes.</p>
<p>Kass sides with Mabel on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Demian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude.  you so need a blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude.  you so need a blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>full disclosure: I pulled what i said in my last post from this article in Portfolio Magazine&#039;s current issue:

http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Analysis-of-Jobs-Leave-of-Absence

it&#039;s titled &quot;Apple After Jobs: What the iconic company can learn from Walt Disney and Sam Walton&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>full disclosure: I pulled what i said in my last post from this article in Portfolio Magazine&#8217;s current issue:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Analysis-of-Jobs-Leave-of-Absence" rel="nofollow">http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Analysis-of-Jobs-Leave-of-Absence</a></p>
<p>it&#8217;s titled &#8220;Apple After Jobs: What the iconic company can learn from Walt Disney and Sam Walton&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether one sides in this argument with you or with Mabel comes down to whether one believes WB to be a &quot;Clock Builder&quot; or a &quot;Time Teller&quot;.
BH and other companies face this same question as their founders / gurus wind down their careers. Corporate boards and stockholders nervously try to forecast the result of a famous founder leaving the company he created. According to the &#039;94 book &quot;Built to Last&quot; , companies that endure across generations were built by Clock Builders; whereas those that shine briefly, then fizzle are run by Time Tellers.
Clock builders install built-to-last mechanisms that can keep going no matter who&#039;s in charge: Sam Walton, GE&#039;s 1st CEO Charles Coffin, Intel&#039;s Andy Grove - and the U.S.A.&#039;s founding fathers were CB&#039;s.
Time tellers, on the other hand, are CEO&#039;s with vision and charisma to whom everyone looks for answers - they can tell time - but no one else there can nor do they ever learn how. Once the old man leaves, the company is left ill-equipped and descends into chaos: Juan Trippe of Pan Am, Walt Disney, and (many suspect) Steve Jobs are examples of Time Tellers whose companies suffered in the wake of their absence.
I think I&#039;ve heard this referred to as &quot;Key Man&quot; syndrome in a different context.
At any rate - I believe WB&#039;s investment judgment is inherently rational and that it therefore can be codified and taught and perpetuated once he&#039;s gone. I also have gotten the impression over the years that WB is a teacher and an engaging person - one who would want to pass along his wisdom vs. some crotchety, scary wizard in a tower (like john simon: creepy king of black box quants). BH can survive because its past success wasn&#039;t pulled from a crystal ball - it was the result of sound reasoning and precise execution: it should run like a clock for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether one sides in this argument with you or with Mabel comes down to whether one believes WB to be a &#8220;Clock Builder&#8221; or a &#8220;Time Teller&#8221;.<br />
BH and other companies face this same question as their founders / gurus wind down their careers. Corporate boards and stockholders nervously try to forecast the result of a famous founder leaving the company he created. According to the &#8217;94 book &#8220;Built to Last&#8221; , companies that endure across generations were built by Clock Builders; whereas those that shine briefly, then fizzle are run by Time Tellers.<br />
Clock builders install built-to-last mechanisms that can keep going no matter who&#8217;s in charge: Sam Walton, GE&#8217;s 1st CEO Charles Coffin, Intel&#8217;s Andy Grove &#8211; and the U.S.A.&#8217;s founding fathers were CB&#8217;s.<br />
Time tellers, on the other hand, are CEO&#8217;s with vision and charisma to whom everyone looks for answers &#8211; they can tell time &#8211; but no one else there can nor do they ever learn how. Once the old man leaves, the company is left ill-equipped and descends into chaos: Juan Trippe of Pan Am, Walt Disney, and (many suspect) Steve Jobs are examples of Time Tellers whose companies suffered in the wake of their absence.<br />
I think I&#8217;ve heard this referred to as &#8220;Key Man&#8221; syndrome in a different context.<br />
At any rate &#8211; I believe WB&#8217;s investment judgment is inherently rational and that it therefore can be codified and taught and perpetuated once he&#8217;s gone. I also have gotten the impression over the years that WB is a teacher and an engaging person &#8211; one who would want to pass along his wisdom vs. some crotchety, scary wizard in a tower (like john simon: creepy king of black box quants). BH can survive because its past success wasn&#8217;t pulled from a crystal ball &#8211; it was the result of sound reasoning and precise execution: it should run like a clock for years to come.</p>
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